Horizontal yes. Vertical?

[Mikado14]

mark moody » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:48 pm

Ok,
So the following device can provide horizontal propulsion.
The $64 million dollar question is how to make it move vertically also.
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Mark

[Mikado14]

mark moody » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:51 pm

Or how about this one?
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Mark

[Mikado14]

mark moody » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:55 pm

Another question.
How does one go about compensating for the weight a plausible portable power supply would add to this device in order to insure lift & thrust.
I'm sorry Mikado.
Would that still be displacement?
Thanks.
Mark

[Mikado14]

2- Stage Propulsion?
mark moody » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:37 pm

How's this for a wild idea.
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This device would be based upon a 2 stage propulsion system.
Stage one would automatically extend the center,portion for vertical propulsion.
Stage 2 would consist of the center portion retracting downward,into a smooth disc while the horizontal mode took over.
Wild?
Crazy?
Doable?
Mark

[Mikado14]

Mark,

I don't see how this should be under "Engineering - Implementation of science and theory into hardware."

I fail to see how this is based upon established science for even you ask if it is "doable".

Would you terribly mind if I moved it to the "Fringe Science" thread? I feel it would be more apropos in that thread.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

mark moody » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:45 am

Mikado,
Please feel free to make the necessary changes.
Mark

[Mikado14]

Chris Knight » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:09 am

Mark,

I spoke with J. Frank King Jr. some years ago (from the Agnew Bahnson lab) regarding the design you have at the top of the page.

The effect we are interested in is an imbalance - the response of a system out of balance to regain equilibrium (nature abhors a vacuum), so I asked if the theory behind using air as a dielectric was that the air was always moving past the electrodes and never able to reach saturation.

My thought at that time was that although air has a low dielectric constant (Ke=1), and not necessarily a great insulator, but if it were constantly moving, then it (the space between the electrodes) would be forever out of balance, and the breakdown voltage between the electrodes would be increased.

The kicker is that I forget his response. Cest la vie.

Andy

[Mikado14]

Mark,

I screwed up when I moved the topid and deleted the shadow topic by mistake. It ended up erasing everything...not too sure how that happened. Anyway, I was able to go to my cache and recover the posts but had to put them under my name but the images were gone. Would you please repost the images so we can understand what we are talking about?

My apologies, it was not intentional.

Mikado (who hasn't finished his morning coffee yet)

[mark moody]

Mikado,
Here they are.

The new

And the old

Old

Mark