A message from Andrew Bolland

[Mikado14]

One more thing fruitbat, you claim you are not masking your IP.

You use opayg.com which is exactly a masked IP.

How truthful are you being? Partially?

Your post came in on a masked IP.

Mikado

[Mikado14]

And from the Token:

http://www.cosmic-token.com/forum/viewt ... 546#p30546

Back to "Andrews" concern for Mark Bean.....I think that I do not have to worry about what Mark Bean is doing NOW but I do think its important for us to study what he was doing in the past because I do remember that for many years he was an outstanding demonstrator of Dads work and devices... I first met him when Andrew and I travelled to Laughlin....as soon as I find the pictures I have stashed somewhere safe I will post those.... so those who are prone to say...." I wasn't there.... I didn't do that" will have a stronger nudge to their memory.

And the lady named " Victoria" on the ttbrown.com Forum said that she first heard about Townsend Brown from THAT particular demonstration where Andrew and I were there also ... she wrote somewhere that was what inspired her to come on to the ttbrown forum...she was VERY impressed with what Mark Bolland had to say.

What actually happened to the relationship that Andrew had developed to that point? Thats what all of this is about, isn't it? Uncovering what actually happened behind the scenes? As I recalled Mark Bean was an amazing help to Andrew... he was someone to " bounce ideas off of" and he was interested....a companion... and it was a very lonesome world out there in those years... thinking about the work of Townsend Brown. There were not that many people talking about Dad then. Andrew was the main " keeper of the flame" and Mark Bean was right there with him.

I don't know what has happened where " Andrew" now seems to be hoping that news of Mark Bean can somehow " show up".....

I don't care one way or another.....

Mark handed the notebooks back to me....( at the time I watched the redheaded woman who was standing with him at the time of that "handoff".... she "faded to the background"..that tells me that there was a whole lot more going on than what I was seeing at the time.... but that actually is par for my course... isn't is? Its time now to see the whole picture.... and to record it. The moment between the chalk and the eraser. Remember?)

More later... I am sure! Linda

Well I predicted this post.

She REALLY wants to know what Mark Bean is doing and it would be to her advantage to find out.

But then, her "claiming" that she doesn't need to know is a good excuse. As I stated, she could prove me wrong for that would make her day and discredit all I ever said in regard to twigsnapper and Morgan et al. Why doesn't she do what Cat said one time - "take Mikado down" - and I am giving her the ability on a silver platter to do just that....and what does she do?....wimp out.

As to her story of the notebooks that she told to - Myself, Kim, Radomir, Pladuim, Fred, maybe Traveler - is nothing like what she is saying now. She was told by twigsnapper to go to Vegas and she would be contacted. She was told to go to a certain Motel and a room there. When she went in there was Mark in a chair with this woman standing over him. He appeared much worse than the wear. He handed the books to Linda and apologized to her for trying to sell the books all the while with this "lady" standing behind him to insure he did. When she left, she saw this van out there with all these antennas on the roof and made a comment about it being what twigsnapper used. Afterward, she went to fill up with gas and she looked at the street sign and it "Rainbow Ave."....or Street.

She will continue to wimp out but then there are those of us who know that this is an excuse...speculative decision....for twigsnapper doesn't exist and neither does Morgan....can't wait to see what Blue will say.

Mikado

PS: flustered I see....Mark Bolland

[Mikado14]

One more thing:

What actually happened to the relationship that Andrew had developed to that point? Thats what all of this is about, isn't it? Uncovering what actually happened behind the scenes? As I recalled Mark Bean was an amazing help to Andrew... he was someone to " bounce ideas off of" and he was interested....a companion... and it was a very lonesome world out there in those years... thinking about the work of Townsend Brown. There were not that many people talking about Dad then. Andrew was the main " keeper of the flame" and Mark Bean was right there with him.

And I really feel the need to point this out.....

SPECULATIVE DECEPTION

...in this paragraph.

Notice how she attempts to explain what was clearly written in plain words...in English....and that the true meaning of those words is something else.

Again for the person who rode the small bus I will make it plain and short.

Ask twigsnapper or Morgan(remember, he is Blue and you post for him all the time) to find out what Mark is doing now. It is in your best interest to find out, afterall, you claim to want to see your Father's work brought out and of all individuals who should know what he is doing, twigsnapper should know.

Of course here is what he will say....it is "top secret" and "top men" are working on it. No, it isn't top secret so Linda Leach will not be able to use that excuse.

Mikado

[Chris Knight]

Mikado,

Ah, finally the heavily veiled reference to a possible homosexual relationship between Mark and I. Notice how easily Linda Leach can backpedal if challenged, "Oh, no, I didn't mean that! " Lol.

You told me at the recent conference that Linda Leach had told you the above story years ago when you were golden, and I was not.

Yes, there was a period of about a year, where I was "out of the group" after our first Las Vegas trip (with Raymond). When things later fell apart between Mikado and Linda Leach, I was golden again. She even told me that I was the equivalent to a Lieutenant in the Caroline Group ! I remember thinking, "Nobody makes me a Lieutenant in anything," and then that's when I began to take a closer look at what was going on.

Anyhow (I like that word you'll find out), I first met Mark in the summer of 1994, and in fact I met him for the first time in person on my annual drive to California to spend my Christmas vacation with Linda and George Leach that November-December. I made that trip every year for many years - a three day drive from Ohio. Mark had first contacted me on the original Soteria.com site, where I had put the Townsend Brown Family website (you can find it at the wayback site now). His interest is in Tesla coils and other high voltage research, so we had something in common. More importantly, he likes to build things, while I am more of a book-smart guy.

He was living with this really pretty girl, Chris, at the time. I was getting close to giving up on a relationship with a girl named Kelly I worked with in the cafeteria at Ohio University. She was the dessert girl, and I was the pots and pans washer. She would make sure a leftover dessert would come back on a tray for me. Not a match made in Heaven in the end, but it was fun. It was just too fattening of a relationship...

Then I met my wife in March of 1995. There were definitely a number of "lonely" years before Paul Schatzkin came along and really started things. It just seemed that there was never any traction. Now, of course, I see that the reason was that Linda Leach had me running down blind alleys. I still have a $30,000 machine downstairs that does something very specific for something that "Twigsnapper" said was valid research. Twigsnapper through Linda Leach, of course. Yep, turns out it wasn't valid research at all.

Can you believe my wife supported me so much that she was 100% behind me buying the machine ? What a woman !

Like I said, Mark is a stand up guy, and doesn't deserve that flak he took from Linda (and myself as mentioned before).

I hope Linda can put on her big-girl pants and call Twigsnapper. Do you think she'll come through, or will she prove by her inaction / silence that she is really Jim Henson's daughter ?

BTW,

"I don't know what has happened where " Andrew" now seems to be hoping that news of Mark Bean can somehow " show up".....

That is a direct confrontational challenge. The gauntlet thrown down. Put up or sit down. Stand behind your story or walk away with your tail between your legs. Call Twigsnapper this weekend. I'm sure he'll answer your call. LOL.

Best,

Andy

[Mikado14]

I do so love gauntlets!

I don't believe she will call him. She will have an excuse. She will now avoid talking about this thread or she will do her speculative deception.

It would be in her best interest to track down Mark but then she hasn't a clue of what in the world her Daddy did. If anyone were to talk to my girls about any of my work, I am sure you will get an answer that may or may not be in the ballpark let alone the same state. However, my daughters both have college degrees and the youngest is in the sciences of which I don't wish to mention on a public forum. My oldest began her days at college in one field, education and then ended up as a psychologist. (And now Linda will attempt to tie that in with Howard but there is no connection. But my daughter has come here and at the Token and she has given her clinical expression of Linda which I won't go into) I digress...apologies. Anyway, what I was attempting to get at was that Linda Leach by her own admission claimed that she was out in the hallway for science class and yet she attempts to allude that she has knowledge of her Daddies work. Sort of like when she told the Traveler that if it wasn't for her going over and throwing a switch when no one was looking that one of my Gravitor experiments would not have worked. She was never there, even though invited.

So I tend to agree with you as to the fact that she could quite easily take me down by making a phone call. A simple little phone call that could take me down and she would have what she wants. Instead, we are getting misdirection, of which she is the queen of, speculative deception and a host of other statements but never a direct answer.

Well, I suppose we will see what happens.

I think what would be interesting is if you post Mark's version of how the books were returned, that is, if you know it. I am curious if this redhead beat the crap out of him as implied by Linda Leach.

Mikado

[StarCat]

Andy, I always felt a strange connection to you. Now I know why. I was the pots and pans washer in the cafeteria at Rocky Flats. Obviously we both missed the boat when we gave up on that promising career field. Just think, had we persevered, we could both been reality television stars. Lol!

Cat

[Chris Knight]

Cat,

That is too funny ! I actually miss that job. Especially when they closed down the serving line, all the leftover food would come back. I was able to take all kinds of foods home. My guilty pleasure was when gravy and French fries came back. There wasn't much better than gravy covered fries ! Awful isn't it. Lest you think otherwise, I am still pretty skinny (although gravity has had a bit of an affect on me). Blessed with a high metabolism I guess.

Best,

Andy

[Chris Knight]

Mikado,

I would be happy to relay what Linda told me about the journal swap, and I'll add what happened on Mark's end (including the mysterious redhead !).

But first I want to give her the opportunity to respond to your challenge to tell us where Mark Bean is and what he is doing.

To reiterate for those just coming in: Mark Bean is one of my best friends - I know where and what he's up to. I want her to prove the existence of the Caroline Group by having them inform her where he is and what he is up to these days, and that it is not all a figment of her imagination. Such a simple challenge.

I think it would be unfair to go any further until I wait for her. I'm sure she has already made a call to Twigsnapper, and is just formulating the information in a post right now, but let's wait at least until Sunday night.

Best,

Andy

[Mikado14]

Fair enough. Why don't you give until the end of the week?

Mikado

[Chris Knight]

Mikado,

That seems more than fair enough if you are willing to give her that time. It is your challenge after all.

In the meantime, here's a road trip story:

This was before I had met my wife or Mark Bean, Bob Lazar, and many of the other UFO people. It was probably in the very early 1990s, when Area 51 was all the rage. Linda Leach and I decided to do a road trip up to Las Vegas and Area 51 to see what was going on.

So, Linda Leach and I piled all our junk in my car and we took off in the early morning. It is several good hours up to Las Vegas and farther to Area 51, so it was afternoon and we're driving down this desolate highway towards Area 51. All of the sudden one of us spots a dead cow off a ways from the highway. We look at each other and both shout out loud wondering if it was an abducted cow. I slam on the brakes, back up, we climb the fence and go over to the cow. Unfortunately, the poor cow had died of natural causes, to our disappointment, so we drove on.

We took a look at the old black mailbox originally at the side entrance to a vantage point, and then went over tot he Little Ale'Inn (sp?) for some orange juice (sour) and to look at the photos of things seen in the nearby skies (interesting).

Then we drove back to Las Vegas, walked the strip for several hours, and then drove down to the old Nevada Landing casino, near the border of Nevada and California, arriving around 1 or 2 am, with me so tired I was half to mostly asleep at the wheel with Linda talking loud to keep me awake. It was an awesome road trip !

Best,

Andy